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2004 deletion debate[edit]

from VfD:

Added by the same anon as Nebo School District. Again, no evidence of notability or interest to people not intimately involved with the school. --Slowking Man 05:35, Sep 17, 2004 (UTC)

  • Non-notable. Delete. RickK 05:42, Sep 17, 2004 (UTC)
This page is in the process of being written, but I guess if there is no desire to have these pages, then why even try. Oh, well.
  • Anonymous Utahn
  • Delete if notability is not established by the end of VfD: Notable schools should be in, "normal" high schools should not. Just think about whether it would be appropriate for a print encyclopedia. Would Encyclopedia Americana want an article on this? Geogre 11:53, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Um. No. Wikipedia is not paper. If something is slightly notable and interesting it should be in. I believe wikipedia will be much more comprehensive than any other encyclopedia. CHL 00:27, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Comments to the contributor: there is no consensus and no policy about whether high schools should be included. What happens in practice is that posting an article on a high school in such a short and incomplete state is just asking for trouble.
Posting articles on high schools is never a sure thing, but the chance of acceptance depends a lot on how good the article is. Wikipedia:Your first article notes that: "Local-interest articles are articles about places like schools, or streets that are of interest to a relatively small number of people such as alumni or people who live nearby. There is no consensus about such articles, but some will challenge them if they include nothing that shows how the place is special and different from tens of thousands of similar places. Photographs add interest. Try to give local-interest articles local color."
For examples of very good articles about high schools that survived VfD, see Moanalua High School and Montgomery Bell Academy.
The VfD discussion runs for several days before any decision is made, and the article can be improved during that period. If you think you can beef up your article by mentioning a notable alum or two, and something special, almost anything, about the school, go for it. Pretend that your audience is a fellow alumnus. When they look up the high school in Wikipedia, you want them to get a warm fuzzy and have the feeling that the article is really about their school.
Do you, by any chance, have a photograph that you took yourself (and hence can give permission to release under the GFDL) that shows that nifty bell-tower-thingy? Not every high school has one of those. Someone from Springville won something-or-other in the 2001 Utah Multimedia Arts Festival; does this mean the school has a particularly good communications arts department?
Please, show us, what's special about Springville High School? [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 13:20, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I know of one thing Springville High is famous for, so I put it on the article. Do have a look. Is that enough? - Non-anonymous Utahn CHL 23:59, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
In my opinion... sure. See my vote below. I agree with your criterion, "slightly notable," and a national news story makes it more than slightly notable. Now, where can we get GFDL images of the mascot representations? [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 14:42, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Note: I'm putting these comments on the contributor's talk page as well. If he responds, showing that he reads his talk page, I'll remove them from here. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 13:20, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep, decent stub - SimonP 15:40, Sep 17, 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete. Non-notable school. Gwalla | Talk 17:16, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
    • Keep. The mascot controversy seems to have been fairly major, which makes it notable. Gwalla | Talk 03:27, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete - Tεxτurε 19:28, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete. This isn't a decent stub. If you google on "Springville High School" now you get a reasonable school website. If Wikipedia kept this, browsers would have to wade through Wikipedia mirror after Wikipedia mirror showing this single uninformative sentence to get to that website and some real information. A short article that summarized some interesting things about the high school and its history and included a direct link to that high school's website would be fine. It would only take me a few minutes to add a little information and add the link. But why should I do it for this particular high school rather than for any one of the thousands of other high schools? Let the inclusionists who think high schools are so important do the work for this and all the others if they care so much. Or let those involved with these schools do the work. Some good articles have appeared. I'll vote keep on a good article, but not on any article so short and uniformative that starting a new article from scratch would be just as easy from information already easily available. Jallan 21:51, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep, since it is a real school it must stay. -- Old Right 23:00, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep - Nothing with having high schools on wikipedia. -- Crevaner 23:18, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep - I added content to the article which makes it notable enough in my opinion. (I don't think all HS articles should be kept, just ones that establish some sort of note, and I think this does now.) CHL 23:59, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete - Non-notable school even with the mascot issue. RedWolf 00:28, Sep 18, 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete. Non-notable. SWAdair | Talk 02:21, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep, reasonable high school. Even if the article isn't great now, people who go to the school will eventually look at the page and add things. -- Creidieki 07:51, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)
    • Delete. They can set up a webpage if they want. Wikipedia isn't here for their free publicity. Not-notable. Most high-schools are not, even if you can dig enough and find something mildly interesting about them. --Improv 16:39, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep as improved by CHL. The section on the mascot controversy meets my objection. I don't think the article is great, I hope improvement will not stop here, and I flatly disagree with the inclusionists such as Old Right. But I set the bar pretty low on notability, and a mention in ABC News (under "US," meaning they consider it a national story) seems like plenty. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 14:34, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • D I don't think that alone qualifies it for inclusion. After all, it is just one article, not a whole series. I would guess they mean "US" vs. "World" as opposed to "US" vs. "Utah". Grand total Google hits for "Parents for Mascot Review" is 2. Not notable enough, I'm afraid. In fact, not even slightly notable. Chris 17:23, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • I followed this issue, and it was covered on national television. A high school mascot isn't terribly significant, but they covered it for the same reason I still remember it: it's interesting. I couldn't find an online record of how many people attended the non-binding vote of the mascot, but I believe was in the thousands--their largest ever school board meeting, in fact. In a community of 20,000, that's mildly amusing. I think I might look it up. CHL 01:03, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Keep now. Vote changed. Though I wonder if the article should not be retitled Springfield High School Red Devil or something similar. Jallan 15:45, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)

  • Delete, to counter votes to keep because "it's a real school." Wikipedia might reach the point where articles of this scale are appropriate, but I don't think we're there yet. Incidentally, the mascot issue seems to be little more than a blip on the radar of a small town, and less significant than the existence of the school itself. Inclusion as a short public interest segment on national television doesn't make it notable, either; we don't want to see articles on every cat stuck up in a tree. -- WOT 18:00, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. If Point_of_Rocks,_Wyoming, total population: 3 can be in Wikipedia then so can this--Xed 22:25, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)

end moved discussion

Missing Schools[edit]

The article currently says that there are only 3 HS in the district, but it is missing a the currently operating fourth, Landmark High School[1] located in Spanish Fork. Likewise there are two new HS's currently under construction. Should these be added? Thanks -- 18:37, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

More about the hidden schools; One of the new schools is Mapleton High School. It is currently under construction and will be open for school in 2009. And... Springville Middle School no longer exsists; it was turned into Cherry Creek Elementary. So I'll delete that. And... There is a new middle school; Mapleton Junior High School. I add that and Cherry Creek.--Emeraldstone 23:42, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is also the new high school in salem (salem hills high school) and payson also has a new jr high, the middle school has been turned into a jr. high with grades 7-9, 6th was moved back to elementary so the middle school is no more 02:06, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I fixes MJHS's enrollment numbers. I also removed Grant Elementary because the Grant Elementary building was closed as a school and opened as a district office. Emeraldstone (talk) 00:36, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Payson High School[edit]

I think that something should be said about the hit movie footloose being filmed at Payson High School

Also i think we should delete the notable alumni of Scott Williams, i'm sorry but having a movie filmed near your home does not make you notable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Omegablackbelt (talkcontribs) 20:24, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

High school page merger proposal[edit]

Spanish Fork HS, Salem Hills HS, Springville HS, and Payson HS do not have their own pages and all redirect here. However, Maple Mountain High School has its own page. I propose that any content there be merged with the section that already exists here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Snay2 (talkcontribs) 04:01, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Proposing merge of Mapleton Junior High School to this article[edit]

Mapleton Junior High School has a dearth of sourcing, no significant coverage in reliable sources for own article. The only content is the school colors, sports, and mascot-- without reliable 3rd party sourcing for that. Dlohcierekim 01:10, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've redated this merge tag because no references section was ever added (so how could unexperienced users ever add them?). Best, Markvs88 (talk) 11:52, 28 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Merge. There is no content on this page except a list of classes offered. This page belongs merged into the school district's page. valereee (talk) 15:50, 11 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Merged May 11 2014. Discussion had opened nearly four years ago and was reopened over two years ago with no objections voiced by any editor. valereee (talk) 16:39, 11 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"P" hillside letter for Payson High School[edit]

Are there any photos available for the the "P" hillside letter for Payson High School? Are there any other schools in this district with hillside letters? See also List of Hillside Letters in Utah for more details. -- (talk) 18:53, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Proposed merge with Spanish Fork Junior High[edit]

School is non-notable. valereee (talk) 16:19, 11 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

How is Nebo SD "beneath" Provo SD?[edit]

Previously the introduction read "Nebo School District...lies beneath the Provo City School District and Alpine School District beginning at Utah Lake and moving south."

How is Nebo SD beneath Provo SD? The areas where the majority of students live in both districts are at about the same elevation. Mapleton is higher than Provo, but that seems an odd way to relate the two districts. I've therefore rewritten this part of the introduction to indicate which districts border Nebo. Lee Choquette (talk) 18:10, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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2021 Improvements/Changes[edit]

With the new middle schools at the Nebo School District, this page is in sore need of an update. In addition, enrollment numbers listed here are terribly outdated (not maintained or updated). I think the Provo School District is a good guide for updating this page, at least to begin. I am, accordingly, making a series of small changes, if anyone would like to review them. You can see them, with summaries, in the history.

The biggest concern for me are the paragraphs under some of the high schools and junior highs. If we follow Provo's model, we remove those descriptions and include a footnote that links to the various schools' websites. In general, these paragraphs are pretty haphazard and unsourced and have all sorts of POV problems, etc. Personally I would like to see web pages for these schools but that will require a fair amount of work to make sure they are up to Wikipedia standards.

That said, the current entry here is enough of a mess (sort of) that I feel okay being bold here. I hope others add to what I'm doing here. I think undoing these changes will be counterproductive (add to it instead!) but, hey, do what you gotta do. Begeun (talk) 02:45, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I attempted to create websites for Payson and Spanish Fork High Schools; both were rejected by admins. Payson was rejected for WP:NORG. That said, Payson has some great information on their school webpage, and I think it has potential. Currently Payson HS page redirects to Nebo. See the edit history for Payson HS here https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Payson_High_School_(Utah)&action=history
Spanish Fork HS, on the other hand, has very little available information and will need some good research, and (as always, apparently) a kind and understanding admin. Good luck. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Begeun (talkcontribs) 16:57, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]